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The first one can be considered as an appropriate generalization to continuous spaces of Larsen and Skou\u2019s probabilistic bisimilarity, whereas the second one is characterized by a natural logic. C. Zhou expressed state bisimilarity as the greatest fixed point of an operator <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline1.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathcal {O}$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula>, and thus introduced an ordinal measure of the discrepancy between it and event bisimilarity. We call this ordinal the <jats:italic>Zhou ordinal<\/jats:italic> of <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline2.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathbb {S}$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula>, <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline3.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathfrak {Z}(\\mathbb {S})$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula>. When <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline4.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathfrak {Z}(\\mathbb {S})=0$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula>, <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline5.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathbb {S}$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula> satisfies the Hennessy\u2013Milner property. The second author proved the existence of an LMP <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline6.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathbb {S}$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula> with <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline7.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathfrak {Z}(\\mathbb {S}) \\geq 1$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula> and Zhou showed that there are LMPs having an infinite Zhou ordinal. In this paper we show that there are LMPs <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline8.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathbb {S}$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula> over separable metrizable spaces having arbitrary large countable <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline9.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathfrak {Z}(\\mathbb {S})$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula> and that it is consistent with the axioms of <jats:inline-formula><jats:alternatives><jats:inline-graphic xmlns:xlink=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\" mime-subtype=\"png\" xlink:href=\"S1755020322000375_inline10.png\"\/><jats:tex-math>\n$\\mathit {ZFC}$\n<\/jats:tex-math><\/jats:alternatives><\/jats:inline-formula> that there is such a process with an uncountable Zhou ordinal.<\/jats:p>","DOI":"10.1017\/s1755020322000375","type":"journal-article","created":{"date-parts":[[2023,2,27]],"date-time":"2023-02-27T10:37:33Z","timestamp":1677494253000},"page":"1011-1032","update-policy":"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1017\/policypage","source":"Crossref","is-referenced-by-count":1,"title":["THE ZHOU ORDINAL OF LABELLED MARKOV PROCESSES OVER SEPARABLE SPACES"],"prefix":"10.1017","volume":"16","author":[{"given":"MART\u00cdN SANTIAGO","family":"MORONI","sequence":"first","affiliation":[]},{"ORCID":"https:\/\/orcid.org\/0000-0003-3928-6942","authenticated-orcid":false,"given":"PEDRO","family":"S\u00c1NCHEZ TERRAF","sequence":"additional","affiliation":[]}],"member":"56","published-online":{"date-parts":[[2023,2,27]]},"reference":[{"key":"S1755020322000375_r3","unstructured":"[3] Desharnais, J. 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