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We review and develop further a non-relativistic quantum information approach developed independently of the impossible measurements in QFT, and show that these two have been addressing virtually the same problem. The non-relativistic solution shows that all nonlocal measurements are <mml:math xmlns:mml=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1998\/Math\/MathML\"><mml:mi>l<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>o<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>c<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>a<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>l<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>i<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>z<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>a<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>b<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>l<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>e<\/mml:mi><\/mml:math> (i.e., they can be carried out at a distance without violating no-signaling) but they (i) may require arbitrarily large entangled resources and (ii) cannot in general be <mml:math xmlns:mml=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1998\/Math\/MathML\"><mml:mi>i<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>d<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>e<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>a<\/mml:mi><mml:mi>l<\/mml:mi><\/mml:math>, i.e., are not immediately reproducible. 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